http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#2c4cb1d6-f18a-46ce-9f4f-2847adbe7276 Sorry, Klamath was spoken in South Oregon, not California. Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:40:57 GMT http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#2c4cb1d6-f18a-46ce-9f4f-2847adbe7276 jheem 2008-10-17T13:40:57Z http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#3614e343-4703-499b-a297-4550da2ed458 I was not aware of MAR Barker or of any of his conlangs. He is the first (of two) PhD linguistics student from UC Berkeley to do conlanging. The other is Marc Okrand (of Klingon fame). Barker worked on the Klamath language and Okrand on Mutsun, both Native American languages of California. Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:07:55 GMT http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#3614e343-4703-499b-a297-4550da2ed458 jheem 2008-10-17T13:07:55Z http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#82c37c1c-b8f0-4c18-8b05-ec471e096d60 It is on wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsoly%C3%A1ni_language or simply http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsolyani Karl Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:59:22 GMT http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#82c37c1c-b8f0-4c18-8b05-ec471e096d60 Karl 2008-10-17T11:59:22Z http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#90aefe67-f800-4965-a2c0-b60f30246144 You mention the Tsolyani Primer and www.tekumel.com so you may have already seen the other two Tsolyani related items sold at Tita's House of Games http://www.tekumel.com/tita/worldinfo.html . The Tsolyáni Language - by M.A.R. Barker. Reproduced by Tita’s House of Games from an Adventure Games original M.A.R. Barker wrote his two volume book Tsolyáni, the language of the Empire of the Petal Throne, for students, travelers, and businessmen within the empire. The two-volume text is complete with pronunciation, grammar, and useful expressions, English-Tsolyáni and Tsolyáni-English vocabularies, and script. The Tsolyáni Language Pronunciation Guide with Ceremonies and Music from the World of Tékumel Tracks 1 and 2 of this CD contain a digital recording of the Tsolyáni language tapes with adjustments to make Prof. Barker’s voice clearer and to remove incidental noises present on the original tape. Tracks 3, 4, and 5 contain digitally remastered copies of a ceremonies from the Temple of Ksárul and Sárku, and of The Lament to the Wheel of Black. I hope these help. Kisa Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:39:14 GMT http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#90aefe67-f800-4965-a2c0-b60f30246144 Kisa 2008-10-15T21:39:14Z http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#a57569a3-ed15-4f7f-8161-9eb811702dbd Aside from the Tsolyani Primer, and the various Tekumel related websites featuring more information about RPGs than the Tsolyani language itself, does anyone know if M.A.R. Barker ever published anything else? Specifically, I'm looking for a comprehensive lexicon, and/or a complete grammar for native English speakers. I've been scouring the internet periodically since late 2000, and I keep coming back to the same stuff what's hosted at www.tekumel.com. Any help would be greatly appreciated, but likely not aptly rewarded, as I'm sure you can well imagine. :) Fri, 06 Feb 2004 05:51:09 GMT http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/44fa7d9d-d2fd-416e-8a69-69d0b40ccaca#a57569a3-ed15-4f7f-8161-9eb811702dbd $item.owner.firstName 2004-02-06T05:51:09Z