Tribe.net. Local Connections jheem http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/7ddeb8e5-ce5f-47c3-9b2d-c50768b44cf6#cd58ba31-955c-4534-8fbe-2f8390ef6dc8 2008-09-03T12:41:13Z 2008-09-03T12:41:13Z

A quick googling shows that some folks think there is a connection. Some facts and some questions. 1. Arabic ustaadh is a loanword from Persian; when did it come into Arabic? 2. A detailed etymology, in Spanish: http://elies.rediris.es/elies22/cap72.htm 3. Was the loanword used (as an honorific) in Mozarabic?

jheem 2008-09-03T12:41:13Z Holden S. http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/7ddeb8e5-ce5f-47c3-9b2d-c50768b44cf6#467f93b7-b4b6-4f09-81b9-e326c1f208ef 2008-09-02T15:02:06Z 2008-09-02T15:02:06Z

oh, okay. i was thinking it might've come from the Arabic honorific "ustad".

Holden S. 2008-09-02T15:02:06Z jheem http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/7ddeb8e5-ce5f-47c3-9b2d-c50768b44cf6#db3286fd-9e06-4415-b810-67ddc24f19c0 2008-09-02T12:32:57Z 2008-09-02T12:32:57Z

It's an abbreviation: usted < vusted < vuestra merced 'your (pl) mercy'.

jheem 2008-09-02T12:32:57Z Holden S. http://linguistica.tribe.net/thread/7ddeb8e5-ce5f-47c3-9b2d-c50768b44cf6#dc11b95e-62de-45a2-9398-1e9dcf6f68f8 2008-09-02T03:29:32Z 2008-09-02T03:29:32Z

can anyone tell me the etymology of the Spanish word "usted"?

Holden S. 2008-09-02T03:29:32Z