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I was speaking with my husband who is not English as first language, and said to him "I was so confused I coulnt' play 'note one'".
He imeditatly corrected me/questioned me, saying "he coulnd't play one note?" And i replied that it's an expression. As I thought of that particular inverstion, in trying to explain it to him, i determined a few case limiters. But I can't figure out exactly where teh inversion comes from.
1) it is generally only used with limited nouns (note, word, and maybe one or to others).
2) it is often assoicated with "know". He didn't know [word] one. (eg, "he couldn't write word one" doesn't come as naturally to my tongue.
3) I'm pretty sure it is not intended to be Note One, as in "he didn't know note One, but he knew Two, Three and four."
4) it has the "sense" or the "style" of something upper crust to my ear, though often those are creatures of hyper correction (Give the book to her and I - has the 'air' of being educated, since it relies on the mistake use of the pronoun I, and the assocated hyper-corrections).
Anyone have any idea where this particular inversion might come from?
He imeditatly corrected me/questioned me, saying "he coulnd't play one note?" And i replied that it's an expression. As I thought of that particular inverstion, in trying to explain it to him, i determined a few case limiters. But I can't figure out exactly where teh inversion comes from.
1) it is generally only used with limited nouns (note, word, and maybe one or to others).
2) it is often assoicated with "know". He didn't know [word] one. (eg, "he couldn't write word one" doesn't come as naturally to my tongue.
3) I'm pretty sure it is not intended to be Note One, as in "he didn't know note One, but he knew Two, Three and four."
4) it has the "sense" or the "style" of something upper crust to my ear, though often those are creatures of hyper correction (Give the book to her and I - has the 'air' of being educated, since it relies on the mistake use of the pronoun I, and the assocated hyper-corrections).
Anyone have any idea where this particular inversion might come from?
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Re: Couldn't play note one.
Sat, October 15, 2005 - 4:24 PMnote one means first note, not one note. Consider "couldn't play note 19" vs. "couldn't play 19 notes". -
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Re: Couldn't play note one.
Sat, October 15, 2005 - 9:36 PMI had considered that, but it didn't make much sense.
He couldn't play note one, but he could play note two thee adn four.
She coudln't read word one, but she could, teh 6th and 7th word. it just seems to far reaching to my logic.
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Re: Couldn't play note one.
Sat, October 15, 2005 - 10:42 PMI think it means that the person is completely incapable, utterly imcompetent, confused beyond any hope of understanding: they can't even play the first note-much less the second, third or the entire piece. In other words, they just don't get it!
So I guess my take on the saying is just like Pools.
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